Wikipedija:Zahtjev za mišljenje administratora/Arhiva 12: razlika između inačica

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[https://hr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Razgovor_Wikipedija:Administratori/Prijedlozi_za_ukidanje_ovlasti/SpeedyGonsales,_Kubura_i_Zeljko&diff=4191572&oldid=4191516]: ''"Uopće ne ulazeći u legitimnost, legalnost ili logičnost ovog glasovanja, nego samo koristeći elementarnu matematiku da bih zbrojio administratore koji su u kafiću ovo glasovanje najblaže rečeno osporili, dolazim do jednostavnog zaključka da većina aktivnih administratora ovakvu "demokraciju" ne podupire. Iz tog razloga ovo glasovanje se obustavlja, a sve suradnike nezadovoljne ovakvom odlukom upućujem na proceduru koju su neki, koji bi očito htjeli biti i žrtve i tužitelji i suci, preskočili da bi došli do ovakvog odlučivanja. Hvala na pažnji! --Jure Grm, 27. dana mjeseca listopada, godine Gospodnje dvijetisućetrinaeste u 12:28."'' --[[User:Jure Grm|<font color="Gold">'''Jure'''</font>]] [[User talk:Jure Grm|<font color="Blue">'''Grm'''</font>]], ''27. dana mjeseca listopada, godine Gospodnje dvijetisućetrinaeste u 21:30.''
 
=== Denny ===
Oprostite da pišem na Engleski, ali pisati na Hrvatski mi ide težje i težje. -- Anyone feel free to translate. I am writing in English, because my written Croatian is unfortunately not getting better.
 
I know Speedy for a long time, and I admire his energy and the love he has put into the Croatian Wikipedia, and I hope he will stay with the Croatian Wikipedia for a long time. In this case though, I am surprised by his behavior. I think that one should not lock down votes against them themselves, due to an obvious bias. I think that some of his latest step are basically following legalistic procedures in order to avoid collecting the opinion of the community. Wikipedia administrators should not be special. They have a few more rights than normal contributors, and these rights should be used in order to save the goal of Wikipedia. Therefore I think it is very important to let the community speak, and to listen carefully to it. Weight the voices - not equally, this is not a democracy - and then decide based on this. I would very much ask Speedy, Kubura, and Zeljko to rethink whether they should be so strongly involved in this process, as it is obvious that they cannot remain unbiased.
 
Every one of us needs to trust the wider community. If this means that we need to re-earn the trust of the community as administrators, then so be it. But disturbing the fragile process of consensus building with procedural means is not what I would consider a helpful choice of action.
 
Loosing - or gaining, for that matter - the adminship should not be considered anything particular special. Both contributors with and without admin-rights will find sufficient work to do, and being one or the other should not have a strong impact on the rest of the work besides the few tasks only an admin can do. --[[Suradnik:Denny|denny vrandečić]] <small>([[Razgovor sa suradnikom:Denny|razgovor]])</small> 22:12, 27. listopada 2013. (CET)
 
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